Posts by New Worldly Translation

to hear many jw's talk, worldly people, to a person, live in a constant state of debauchery.. i would guess that the majority of american jw's were watching the super bowl last night.

towards the end of the game, phil simms (the color commentator for cbs) was talking about how tony dungy (the coach of the indianapolis colts) never raises his voice, never curses, is "class" all the way.

New Worldly Translation

Well Mother Theresa was an interesting character but not quite as saintly as she liked to portray according to Indians she purported to help in Calcutta.
That's another topic though.

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Dinosaurs?

by Paralipomenon in

i was very curious about dinosaurs as a child.

what was jehovah's purpose for them?

my mother used to say that they were used to prepare the earth for living, you know, like mulch and stuff.

New Worldly Translation

Yeah I remember those dino's being in the old green bible, haha. They also had dino's in the orange paradise book getting killed in Noah's flood.

I never understood the explanation of the dinosaurs being used to eat and tread down overgrown vegetation for man coming on the scene. For a start why would god let his garden get so overgrown and further why invent dozens of new species to mulch it and then kill em off. Also in a year or so the veg would have grown back anyway, never mind the 65 million year gap that actually took place.

This is from the WT Library CD - Awake 1990

The
DatingofDinosaurs
Dinosaur bones are regularly found in lower earth layers than are human bones, leading many to conclude that they belong to an earlier time period. Geologists call this time the Mesozoic period and subdivide it into the Cretaceous, Jurassic, and Triassic periods. The time frames used for these periods are on the order of tens of millions of years. But has this been established with any certainty?
One method being used to measure the age of fossils is called radiocarbon dating. This dating system measures the rate of decay of radioactive carbon from the point of death of the organism. "Once an organism dies, it no longer absorbs new carbon dioxide from its environment, and the proportion of the isotope falls off over time as it undergoes radioactive decay," states ScienceandTechnologyIllustrated.
However, there are severe problems with the system. First, when the fossil is considered to be about 50,000 years old, its level of radioactivity has fallen so low that it can be detected only with great difficulty. Second, even in more recent specimens, this level has fallen so low that it is still extremely difficult to measure accurately. Third, scientists can measure the present-day rate of radioactive carbon formation but have no way of measuring carbon concentrations in the distant past.
So whether they use the radiocarbon method for dating fossils or other methods, such as employing radioactive potassium, uranium, or thorium, for dating rocks, scientists are unable to establish the original levels of those elements through ages of time. Thus, professor of metallurgy Melvin A. Cook observes: "One may only guess these concentrations [of radioactive materials], and the age results thus obtained can be no better than this guess." That would especially be so when we consider that the Flood of Noah’s day over 4,300 years ago brought enormous changes in the atmosphere and on earth.
Dartmouth College geologists Charles Officer and Charles Drake further add doubt to the accuracy of radioactive dating. They state: "We conclude that iridium and other associated elements were not deposited instantaneously . . . but rather that there was an intense and variable influx of these constituents during a relatively short geologic time interval on the order of 10,000 to 100,000 years." They argue that the breakup and movement of the continents disrupted the entire globe, causing volcanic eruptions, blocking sunlight and fouling the atmosphere. Certainly, such disruptive events could change radioactivity levels, thus distorting results from modern-day radioactive clocks.
The
GenesisAccountandDinosaurs
While the radioactive dating method is innovative, it is still based on speculation and assumption. In contrast, the Bible account in the first chapter of Genesis simply states the general order of creation. It allows for possibly thousands of millions of years for the formation of the earth and many millenniums in six creative eras, or "days," to prepare the earth for human habitation.
Some dinosaurs (and pterosaurs) may indeed have been created in the fifth era listed in Genesis, when the Bible says that God made "flying creatures" and "great sea monsters." Perhaps other types of dinosaurs were created in the sixth epoch. The vast array of dinosaurs with their huge appetites would have been appropriate considering the abundant vegetation that evidently existed in their time.—Genesis 1:20-24.
When the dinosaurs had fulfilled their purpose, God ended their life. But the Bible is silent on how he did that or when. We can be sure that dinosaurs were created by Jehovah for a purpose, even if we do not fully understand that purpose at this time. They were no mistake, no product of evolution. That they suddenly appear in the fossil record unconnected to any fossil ancestors, and also disappear without leaving connecting fossil links, is evidence against the view that such animals gradually evolved over millions of years of time. Thus, the fossil record does not support the evolution theory. Instead, it harmonizes with the Bible’s view of creative acts of God.

LOL! Don't even know where to start on that pile of misinformation

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ETs and Bible

by Woodsman in

i was wondering since leaving the wts has anybody adopted new views on life from other worlds or do you still hold to the wts's view.. i am open to alot of new possibilities.

pictures like the one below make me wonder.

it was painted in 1710. long before weather balloons and experimental aircraft.

New Worldly Translation

I'm still hopeful microbial life will be found on Mars. Although not ET's per se, I think it would still be a major find and go some way to proving life isn't so special to earth.
Also the search for planets in the visible universe only took off in the mid 90's due to new detection techniques and about 5 new ones are found every week. Up to now all gas giants but one day maybe they'll find a life sustaining planet.

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Need A Break From The Forum (Goodbye for now)

by lovelylil in

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friends

dear friends,.

i am taking some time away from posting.

i don't really know if or when i will be back.

New Worldly Translation

All the best Lovelylil and take care.

Hope the dancing and the learning Greek go well.

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Stupid Brits!

by nicolaou in

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friends

we can take it!

c'mon tell us why we're so stupid, it can't be that difficult we elected tony blair for god's sake!.

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New Worldly Translation

Well we are the 37th suckiest country in the world

alt

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Tony Dungy, and cognitive dissonance

by DanTheMan in

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friends

one thing that always struck me about jw's was their insularity, how truly ignorant so many of them are about the world outside of their world.

to hear many jw's talk, worldly people, to a person, live in a constant state of debauchery.. i would guess that the majority of american jw's were watching the super bowl last night.

towards the end of the game, phil simms (the color commentator for cbs) was talking about how tony dungy (the coach of the indianapolis colts) never raises his voice, never curses, is "class" all the way.

New Worldly Translation

Yeah I know what your saying. JW's have a certain distasteful arrogance towards 'worldy' people, especially those of other faiths. It's drilled into them by WTS publications that there are nice people in the world who do good things, but they're still under satan and his deemins. It's implied that their persona is just a facade and if you scratch beneath the surface they're still bad people.
This is despite, in my experience, JW's being some of the most racist, bigotted, uncharitable people I've ever known. And that's just my family.

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Just finished a great book

by New Worldly Translation in

i've just finished the prince of the marshes by rory stewart.

it's an account of his time as deputy governer of provinces in iraq and his disillusionment with the direction of the coalition and their misunderstanding of the middle east.

he's one of the few western writers who gives an honest and knowledgable account and opinon of what's going on and he manages to do it without seeming judgemental to either side.. for people not interested in politics his book the places in between is one of the best travel accounts i've read.

New Worldly Translation

I'd really recommend the travel book Luna2. It's the type of book I thought had died out in the 50's when global transport made the world smaller and travel writing became a safe adventure and less wonderous somehow.

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JW's to stop the preaching work??

by awol in

jw
friends

my mum went round to my jw sisters the other day and she said she had some exciting news.

my mum has fallen away and the rest of us kids don't go (either fallen away or d/f'd).

she then asked her husband if she could tell my mum... and they informed her (with huge big grins) that the preaching work is soon to stop.

New Worldly Translation

Did they mention where they got the information from?
It sounds like one of those sort of pronouncements CO's make from time to time that's off script. Unless it's written in a magazine or publication it's difficult to pin down if it's 'new light' or not. I know I'll be keeping my ear to the ground on this one though.

Thanks for the info